okay guys and welcome back to my channel
on today's video I'd like to teach you
how to make the ultimate raw diet for
your pup so we have in feed and Dante or
on tire for a little bit over a year now
and during this time was gained a lot of
knowledge about how it works and we've
been able to really construct a diet
that fits his needs we've got a lot of
questions from you guys about how the
raw diet works so we thought that would
be a great opportunity to have an
updated video for you guys but before we
start this video I wanted to let you
guys in on a secret
I'm not a vet with that being said if
this diet doesn't figure you're a
definite need you have to do your own
research this all here is a combination
of research getting in touch with our
vet trying out different things so
please don't take my opinion or anything
from here as the only thing that is
correct there are many many ways to do
this and you should do your own research
free dog if this doesn't work for you so
yeah okay so doctors diet is composed of
seven food groups which include muscles
edible bones or you eat liver seeds and
nuts fruits and veggies so the first
thing that you would need to do if you
want to start feeding your dog a raw
diet is to figure out how much he needs
to eat a day to do that you have to
multiply your dog's weight times the
maintenance percentage the maintenance
percentage is how much your dog needs to
eat based on his activity level so for
example Dante weighs 120 pounds and he
is a little activity level so we had to
figure out what 1.5 percent of 120
pounds was and that in turn gave us one
point eight pounds so he has to be one
point eight pounds a day around those
one point the accountants the day we're
going to break down the seven food
groups that I mentioned crazy so that
means we are going to do 70% of
muscle meat 10% of egg foams 7% of
veggies 5% of liver 5% of organ meat 2%
of nuts and 1% of fruits we like to
prepare down to use food in week batches
so we make sure to measure out
everything that he needs to eat for the
week and then we split everything into
containers so it's okay if he has for
example a little bit more strawberries
from the already measured out amount on
a Monday because he's eating his
allowance the first thing I'm going to
measure out our done T's vegetables I
like to keep things nice and very nice
and colorful so I have some spinach and
cilantro
these some mushrooms and some shredded
carrots these are carrots from what we
had leftover so that's what were you
okay so Dante needs point nine pounds of
vegetables so I have a scale here I'm
going to measure all of that out right
now
so wasn't done measuring everything out
my veggies are going to look like this
now I'm going to start dividing up the
vegetables into my containers it's a
little bit of everything in there again
it's okay if he doesn't get a beat on
Monday if he gets a beat on the other
day so it's okay 70 excited you guys
like watching me do this and you guys
this is the easy part because the organ
meat little bit stinky but I got the
overall if you plan yourself and you do
this like on Monday it's pretty simple
[Music]
okay so now one container is ready with
well all my containers already but I'll
just show you what all the veggies that
he's supposed to have in a day looks
like now I'm going to measure out how
much fruit that he needs and he need
0.13 pounds of fruit so we're gonna go
with their blueberries this is I want to
put in as much as I can but he literally
just needs 1% of this thanks strawberry
all right so now I'm going to divide
when de blueberry birthday I thought I'm
gonna get a strawberry on Monday a
couple of blueberries on Tuesday Oh cute
[Applause]
okay so now I have show you an example
of one of the containers but all of them
look very similar I have my fruits add
my vegetables ready freely now I'm going
to measure out the nuts special note on
the nuts nuts contain phytic acid so you
will need to soak them in water with a
little bit of salt to reduce the levels
of phytic acid phytic acid interferes in
the nutrient absorption so that's why
you need to do it so you need to soak
these for at least 24 hours in water you
put a half of a teaspoon of salt per
quarter of water per quart of water that
you have so that's what I did right here
so obviously purchase nuts that don't
have salt in those because you're going
to put salt in it later
I already have this all measured out so
I'm just going to chop them up okay so
now I'm going to do the same thing that
I did with my pretty tune with my
veggies I'll just I roll and distribute
them throughout the week so Dante you
need to tell me that if you're in the
wild you keep smacking out almonds Wow
okay so now that we got done to
Sterling's ready I'm gonna show you how
it looks when it's in the container for
the week now I think it's a good moment
to add his glucosamine tablets he needs
to have two tablets a day and we give it
to Duntov because it's good for his
drinks you guys can obviously add any
supplements that your dog needs talk to
your vet first that is a big dog so he
needs glucose me assurance because he's
big and heavy right so I'm gonna do that
now I'm gonna separate them
they're very powdery so with the juices
of the organ meat they will dissolve
they smell awful but he seems to like
them he happen like this alright so I'm
gonna do that now so we like to give
Dante about two eggs a week along with
the eggshells we like to give done TX
shots because it's a good source of
calcium it's nice for his coat so I'm
gonna do the same thing that I did for
all the other things all the other
ingredients and spread the egg
and the eggshells throughout the seven
days in the seven continues should we
give an egg on Monday or on Thursday
[Music]
are you guys so now this is how my
container looks with the egg and it's
the eggshells all right so now we have
our fruits our veggies are nuts all the
way
now we're gonna get next we're gonna do
the organs and the envelopes
okay guys so now we're going to measure
out the biggest portion of donkeys meal
and that is muscle meat
this smells yes but like my fruits and
veggies I like to keep these things
buried so we have in your a of muscle
meat here for you guys to see today we
have some green tripe we have a whole
ground chicken some beef trimmings some
sardines yeah the be retail rate
obviously you don't have to get a beaver
tail it's just we're showing you that
there are different forms of muscle me
frankenteen
he's like right here going this okay so
now Dante needs a whopping 8 pounds of
this for his diet and he is going so I'm
going to measure all of that now and
divide it into his continues I'm going
to use my hands I mean not my hands soon
because this smells really rose in the
green trout yeah
hey I got you honey this smells
delicious oh well be smart to turn on
this girl before
all right so you guys are gonna put in
some of this green tripe in here
taunting me licking his lips okay I feel
like I've put so much green track
already but I'm not even like close to
how much she's supposed to be at him do
you guys hear him licking his lips
all right so that's one pound of track
so far I'm going to put the other things
in I put all of my sardines in here now
here comes the ground chicken this is
everything this is everything it's not
just like ground chicken breast it's
like everything well Guinea
I don't know how I mean it's chicken you
guys I'm not even one pound now to
pounce
there you go oh my gosh ten teams at
your corner for Dante all right so we're
at three pounds now let's put some of
these oh yeah yeah that looks okay so I
am at four pounds now of meat cutlet and
we I'm going to start dividing this in
the containers because clearly I don't
have enough space it's okay I like to
talk my knee
Michel salad tables variety but do you
need to tell me that your ancestors
write some up you're such a scaredy cat
I can't even see you like hunting a cow
I'm gonna have to just miss mushing in
here because great way also I forgot to
mention we've got all of our organ meat
online we were having a hard time Janet
that's from a regular Buchert because
butchers think it's weird when you ask
them for some beaver tail or ovaries so
we just started to order everything I
like I think that was everything thank
you
now we're going to chop up this feeder
tail
dude if you go to its little bit here oh
my gosh you guys you won't believe how
tough this is all right I need a better
knife and he like a serrated knife
[Music]
[Music]
thank you for joining us on this segment
of getting your husband to cut the
beaver tail for you because it's too
right so now that I have everything nice
and you chopped up I'm going to measure
out the rest of B meet her muscles that
means for the week in the comments tell
me it's very interesting
the chickens heart I told you love is
the most important ingredient okay okay
now we have all this now don't you
spread that evenly on his no it's
[Music]
Americans you our names should deliver
it right okay now I'm going to measure
out the liver this is just beef liver
liver is actually really easy to get to
we got this at Walmart so it's the
easiest organ meat to find but this has
its separate category of its own because
dogs can't have too much liver it's
actually bad for them but a little bit
goes a long way so we said that this I'm
going to have to give them 0.63% so I
mean pal
[Music]
all right the next one I'm gonna do are
the organs and the organs is the same
0.63% the organs we have some ground
beef pancreas very nice very nice it's
ground so you can really tell it could
be tricky for you no just kidding
and we also have some ground beef spleen
grabuge being famous on the liver point
6th Street for those of you who haven't
seen what spleen looks like from the cow
there you go okay this this one is the
texture is just so what it has it's like
how does it so many things at the same
time you know it's like okay pudding
it's like jello II but it has like fiber
isn't it it kind of looks like that
cheese rule when AJ would see full
circle we come full circle
wait what does the smelling is it
I was gonna say this smells so familiar
so cameraman is saying it smells like
look I'm sorry I'm having a lot of fun
this is but it's just that I've enough
what do you like alright that's it for
you scream thank you very much but later
now we're gonna go for the beat pancreas
wow it looks like vomit
it looks like vomit because there is
like some green stuff in there like
there's some chunks you know but this
one is like a little bit more it looks
like it has like very different stuff in
here that looks like bees like shaped in
the bean
[Music]
and this is like the sister of the
spleen because it's paint it so this
wing can be a boy yeah there you go and
you go now imagine this with a little
bit of flour sugar and pop it in the
other the smell oh it's so weird it's
like this cornstarch holding it together
okay so this is what we have so far you
guys added the muscle and the organs and
added the liver sorry about that weird
cutscene our memory party right now so
we have to get another one
but right now what we're going to do is
the last thing that we'll need to
measure out and that is the edible Bowl
so we're going to measure out 1.2 pounds
of edible bones right now
so for the edible bones I have some
chicken feet so I have so I just
finished putting in my chicken feet but
I'm still missing a couple more pounds
so I'm going to put in that chicken
carcass that we have here from Oakland
chicken
all right guys some ribbon and a t-shirt
as per second of calling your husband to
help you cook the chicken carcass once
more
okay so I have all of my chicken
carcasses chopped up here thanks to Doge
a cameraman who's also my husband hey
shiny big feet a sneaky anyway alright
so now we're into our containers and
that will be it
alright guys so this is what Dante's
full meal of the day looks like in a
container and before it closed all of
them up I'm going to put some sorts of
fish oil you eat put five squirts of
fish oil um I believe it depends on how
much your dog weighs so that's what
we're gonna do so I'm going to leave one
in the fridge one of my containers in
the fridge tonight so that it will be
ready for don t to have tomorrow if
you're starting off on giving your dog a
raw diet there are a lot of ways that
you can help your dog transition
something that we did with Dante was we
initially gave him his food frozen and
parts of his food frozen so that I
helped him pace himself while she was
eating it because Dante loved it he the
first time he had raw meat he was like
going nuts so we were afraid that he
would choke in a way for you to help
your dog pace themselves is giving them
the food frozen we also introduced some
parts of hid of the food groups
little by little which is something
maybe you guys not to look into if your
dog is a little bit picky it really just
depends on your dog and what is that's
for him I know who I can only speak for
Dante because he loved it so it was
fairly easy for us to transition him and
I
say one of the most enjoyable parts of
daunting being on the raw diet aside
from him loving it and being extremely
like eager to eat is that his poops
don't even smell anymore his poops don't
even smell and they're like really
really tiny they're smaller than my
sister-in-law's dog and he's a springer
spaniel so just picture that for
reference they're super small percent
less and they're like dusty because he
processes all of the food that he's
eating so what in reality he's just
pooping out are like mostly the bones Oh
like powdered up maybe that's too much
information so yeah that's it I think
this one will be tomorrow's portion and
the rest are going to go in the freezer
17 I'm some football you rolled under
the peach hey guys so while Fenty is eating I
wanted to take advantage and talk about
the thing that is on your mind right now
and that is money how much does it cost
to feed your dog run a raw diet so what
we do with Dante is we buy most of his
protein in bulk so we keep a four to six
month supply in our freezer at all times
and then we just use it as we go this
saved us some money on shipping because
then we just have to pay one time and
we're always looking into what cuts of
me have a better price per pound so with
that being said it costs twenty two
dollars and thirty cents per pound to
keep him on a raw diet when he was on
his cable before it cost about two
dollars and ten cents so yes there is a
little bit of an increase but we feel
that the advantage is really really
outweigh the cost
Dante is just way more eager to eat his
food his coat is nicer
we noticed that his overall you know
mood is better
and honestly we think that it just
outweighs the constant it's an
investment that's worth making when we
were doing a lot of research about raw
dieting we saw that for a lot of dogs
their life expectancy actually increased
in two years so what do you think about that
yes need to plan a little bit more but
then you have your dog for longer so
it's just it's just for us it was a
no-brainer so if you liked this video
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on today's video I'd like to teach you
how to make the ultimate raw diet for
your pup so we have in feed and Dante or
on tire for a little bit over a year now
and during this time was gained a lot of
knowledge about how it works and we've
been able to really construct a diet
that fits his needs we've got a lot of
questions from you guys about how the
raw diet works so we thought that would
be a great opportunity to have an
updated video for you guys but before we
start this video I wanted to let you
guys in on a secret
I'm not a vet with that being said if
this diet doesn't figure you're a
definite need you have to do your own
research this all here is a combination
of research getting in touch with our
vet trying out different things so
please don't take my opinion or anything
from here as the only thing that is
correct there are many many ways to do
this and you should do your own research
free dog if this doesn't work for you so
yeah okay so doctors diet is composed of
seven food groups which include muscles
edible bones or you eat liver seeds and
nuts fruits and veggies so the first
thing that you would need to do if you
want to start feeding your dog a raw
diet is to figure out how much he needs
to eat a day to do that you have to
multiply your dog's weight times the
maintenance percentage the maintenance
percentage is how much your dog needs to
eat based on his activity level so for
example Dante weighs 120 pounds and he
is a little activity level so we had to
figure out what 1.5 percent of 120
pounds was and that in turn gave us one
point eight pounds so he has to be one
point eight pounds a day around those
one point the accountants the day we're
going to break down the seven food
groups that I mentioned crazy so that
means we are going to do 70% of
muscle meat 10% of egg foams 7% of
veggies 5% of liver 5% of organ meat 2%
of nuts and 1% of fruits we like to
prepare down to use food in week batches
so we make sure to measure out
everything that he needs to eat for the
week and then we split everything into
containers so it's okay if he has for
example a little bit more strawberries
from the already measured out amount on
a Monday because he's eating his
allowance the first thing I'm going to
measure out our done T's vegetables I
like to keep things nice and very nice
and colorful so I have some spinach and
cilantro
these some mushrooms and some shredded
carrots these are carrots from what we
had leftover so that's what were you
okay so Dante needs point nine pounds of
vegetables so I have a scale here I'm
going to measure all of that out right
now
so wasn't done measuring everything out
my veggies are going to look like this
now I'm going to start dividing up the
vegetables into my containers it's a
little bit of everything in there again
it's okay if he doesn't get a beat on
Monday if he gets a beat on the other
day so it's okay 70 excited you guys
like watching me do this and you guys
this is the easy part because the organ
meat little bit stinky but I got the
overall if you plan yourself and you do
this like on Monday it's pretty simple
[Music]
okay so now one container is ready with
well all my containers already but I'll
just show you what all the veggies that
he's supposed to have in a day looks
like now I'm going to measure out how
much fruit that he needs and he need
0.13 pounds of fruit so we're gonna go
with their blueberries this is I want to
put in as much as I can but he literally
just needs 1% of this thanks strawberry
all right so now I'm going to divide
when de blueberry birthday I thought I'm
gonna get a strawberry on Monday a
couple of blueberries on Tuesday Oh cute
[Applause]
okay so now I have show you an example
of one of the containers but all of them
look very similar I have my fruits add
my vegetables ready freely now I'm going
to measure out the nuts special note on
the nuts nuts contain phytic acid so you
will need to soak them in water with a
little bit of salt to reduce the levels
of phytic acid phytic acid interferes in
the nutrient absorption so that's why
you need to do it so you need to soak
these for at least 24 hours in water you
put a half of a teaspoon of salt per
quarter of water per quart of water that
you have so that's what I did right here
so obviously purchase nuts that don't
have salt in those because you're going
to put salt in it later
I already have this all measured out so
I'm just going to chop them up okay so
now I'm going to do the same thing that
I did with my pretty tune with my
veggies I'll just I roll and distribute
them throughout the week so Dante you
need to tell me that if you're in the
wild you keep smacking out almonds Wow
okay so now that we got done to
Sterling's ready I'm gonna show you how
it looks when it's in the container for
the week now I think it's a good moment
to add his glucosamine tablets he needs
to have two tablets a day and we give it
to Duntov because it's good for his
drinks you guys can obviously add any
supplements that your dog needs talk to
your vet first that is a big dog so he
needs glucose me assurance because he's
big and heavy right so I'm gonna do that
now I'm gonna separate them
they're very powdery so with the juices
of the organ meat they will dissolve
they smell awful but he seems to like
them he happen like this alright so I'm
gonna do that now so we like to give
Dante about two eggs a week along with
the eggshells we like to give done TX
shots because it's a good source of
calcium it's nice for his coat so I'm
gonna do the same thing that I did for
all the other things all the other
ingredients and spread the egg
and the eggshells throughout the seven
days in the seven continues should we
give an egg on Monday or on Thursday
[Music]
are you guys so now this is how my
container looks with the egg and it's
the eggshells all right so now we have
our fruits our veggies are nuts all the
way
now we're gonna get next we're gonna do
the organs and the envelopes
okay guys so now we're going to measure
out the biggest portion of donkeys meal
and that is muscle meat
this smells yes but like my fruits and
veggies I like to keep these things
buried so we have in your a of muscle
meat here for you guys to see today we
have some green tripe we have a whole
ground chicken some beef trimmings some
sardines yeah the be retail rate
obviously you don't have to get a beaver
tail it's just we're showing you that
there are different forms of muscle me
frankenteen
he's like right here going this okay so
now Dante needs a whopping 8 pounds of
this for his diet and he is going so I'm
going to measure all of that now and
divide it into his continues I'm going
to use my hands I mean not my hands soon
because this smells really rose in the
green trout yeah
hey I got you honey this smells
delicious oh well be smart to turn on
this girl before
all right so you guys are gonna put in
some of this green tripe in here
taunting me licking his lips okay I feel
like I've put so much green track
already but I'm not even like close to
how much she's supposed to be at him do
you guys hear him licking his lips
all right so that's one pound of track
so far I'm going to put the other things
in I put all of my sardines in here now
here comes the ground chicken this is
everything this is everything it's not
just like ground chicken breast it's
like everything well Guinea
I don't know how I mean it's chicken you
guys I'm not even one pound now to
pounce
there you go oh my gosh ten teams at
your corner for Dante all right so we're
at three pounds now let's put some of
these oh yeah yeah that looks okay so I
am at four pounds now of meat cutlet and
we I'm going to start dividing this in
the containers because clearly I don't
have enough space it's okay I like to
talk my knee
Michel salad tables variety but do you
need to tell me that your ancestors
write some up you're such a scaredy cat
I can't even see you like hunting a cow
I'm gonna have to just miss mushing in
here because great way also I forgot to
mention we've got all of our organ meat
online we were having a hard time Janet
that's from a regular Buchert because
butchers think it's weird when you ask
them for some beaver tail or ovaries so
we just started to order everything I
like I think that was everything thank
you
now we're going to chop up this feeder
tail
dude if you go to its little bit here oh
my gosh you guys you won't believe how
tough this is all right I need a better
knife and he like a serrated knife
[Music]
[Music]
thank you for joining us on this segment
of getting your husband to cut the
beaver tail for you because it's too
right so now that I have everything nice
and you chopped up I'm going to measure
out the rest of B meet her muscles that
means for the week in the comments tell
me it's very interesting
the chickens heart I told you love is
the most important ingredient okay okay
now we have all this now don't you
spread that evenly on his no it's
[Music]
Americans you our names should deliver
it right okay now I'm going to measure
out the liver this is just beef liver
liver is actually really easy to get to
we got this at Walmart so it's the
easiest organ meat to find but this has
its separate category of its own because
dogs can't have too much liver it's
actually bad for them but a little bit
goes a long way so we said that this I'm
going to have to give them 0.63% so I
mean pal
[Music]
all right the next one I'm gonna do are
the organs and the organs is the same
0.63% the organs we have some ground
beef pancreas very nice very nice it's
ground so you can really tell it could
be tricky for you no just kidding
and we also have some ground beef spleen
grabuge being famous on the liver point
6th Street for those of you who haven't
seen what spleen looks like from the cow
there you go okay this this one is the
texture is just so what it has it's like
how does it so many things at the same
time you know it's like okay pudding
it's like jello II but it has like fiber
isn't it it kind of looks like that
cheese rule when AJ would see full
circle we come full circle
wait what does the smelling is it
I was gonna say this smells so familiar
so cameraman is saying it smells like
look I'm sorry I'm having a lot of fun
this is but it's just that I've enough
what do you like alright that's it for
you scream thank you very much but later
now we're gonna go for the beat pancreas
wow it looks like vomit
it looks like vomit because there is
like some green stuff in there like
there's some chunks you know but this
one is like a little bit more it looks
like it has like very different stuff in
here that looks like bees like shaped in
the bean
[Music]
and this is like the sister of the
spleen because it's paint it so this
wing can be a boy yeah there you go and
you go now imagine this with a little
bit of flour sugar and pop it in the
other the smell oh it's so weird it's
like this cornstarch holding it together
okay so this is what we have so far you
guys added the muscle and the organs and
added the liver sorry about that weird
cutscene our memory party right now so
we have to get another one
but right now what we're going to do is
the last thing that we'll need to
measure out and that is the edible Bowl
so we're going to measure out 1.2 pounds
of edible bones right now
so for the edible bones I have some
chicken feet so I have so I just
finished putting in my chicken feet but
I'm still missing a couple more pounds
so I'm going to put in that chicken
carcass that we have here from Oakland
chicken
all right guys some ribbon and a t-shirt
as per second of calling your husband to
help you cook the chicken carcass once
more
okay so I have all of my chicken
carcasses chopped up here thanks to Doge
a cameraman who's also my husband hey
shiny big feet a sneaky anyway alright
so now we're into our containers and
that will be it
alright guys so this is what Dante's
full meal of the day looks like in a
container and before it closed all of
them up I'm going to put some sorts of
fish oil you eat put five squirts of
fish oil um I believe it depends on how
much your dog weighs so that's what
we're gonna do so I'm going to leave one
in the fridge one of my containers in
the fridge tonight so that it will be
ready for don t to have tomorrow if
you're starting off on giving your dog a
raw diet there are a lot of ways that
you can help your dog transition
something that we did with Dante was we
initially gave him his food frozen and
parts of his food frozen so that I
helped him pace himself while she was
eating it because Dante loved it he the
first time he had raw meat he was like
going nuts so we were afraid that he
would choke in a way for you to help
your dog pace themselves is giving them
the food frozen we also introduced some
parts of hid of the food groups
little by little which is something
maybe you guys not to look into if your
dog is a little bit picky it really just
depends on your dog and what is that's
for him I know who I can only speak for
Dante because he loved it so it was
fairly easy for us to transition him and
I
say one of the most enjoyable parts of
daunting being on the raw diet aside
from him loving it and being extremely
like eager to eat is that his poops
don't even smell anymore his poops don't
even smell and they're like really
really tiny they're smaller than my
sister-in-law's dog and he's a springer
spaniel so just picture that for
reference they're super small percent
less and they're like dusty because he
processes all of the food that he's
eating so what in reality he's just
pooping out are like mostly the bones Oh
like powdered up maybe that's too much
information so yeah that's it I think
this one will be tomorrow's portion and
the rest are going to go in the freezer
17 I'm some football you rolled under
the peach hey guys so while Fenty is eating I
wanted to take advantage and talk about
the thing that is on your mind right now
and that is money how much does it cost
to feed your dog run a raw diet so what
we do with Dante is we buy most of his
protein in bulk so we keep a four to six
month supply in our freezer at all times
and then we just use it as we go this
saved us some money on shipping because
then we just have to pay one time and
we're always looking into what cuts of
me have a better price per pound so with
that being said it costs twenty two
dollars and thirty cents per pound to
keep him on a raw diet when he was on
his cable before it cost about two
dollars and ten cents so yes there is a
little bit of an increase but we feel
that the advantage is really really
outweigh the cost
Dante is just way more eager to eat his
food his coat is nicer
we noticed that his overall you know
mood is better
and honestly we think that it just
outweighs the constant it's an
investment that's worth making when we
were doing a lot of research about raw
dieting we saw that for a lot of dogs
their life expectancy actually increased
in two years so what do you think about that
yes need to plan a little bit more but
then you have your dog for longer so
it's just it's just for us it was a
no-brainer so if you liked this video
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